Demons In The Night

[fallenone]

let me clear this up, what I am saying is I have never heard of a loving demon,not that i dont believe in demons, because I know they are just as real as you and I...demons can present theirselves as loving but they are not..In my belief and experience...others may have different opinions and I respect that.

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This is all easier said than done and i realise this, but you need to remeber that a demon, no matter how much it wants to, cannot feel compasion or love and no matter what, in the end will always hurt you.

Yes, you are right. It is futile. Utterly pointless. But then, such is life. A desire for something leads to a knowing that few truly comprehend. To truly know of something deep enough to fill rivers with words... like blood. I am quite positive that there are at least 1 or 2 "compassionate" (once) demons on this forum of which you do not know who or what they are.

They have simply forgotten... because they were forgotten. When there is no light, all you have is darkness. Even if the darkness is monstrous, even if the odds are at 1million/1, that compassion is not pointless. A gentle hand is stronger than ANY FIST and ANY BLADE.

But then... there is a price for being "good" natured such as that. Nothing comes without sacrifice.

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As a chaote, more specifically an atheist pagan, I believe that demons were all once human who... lost their way. The astral plane is a lot different than this one. Some pain runs too deep to be forgotten. It is for this reason that I do not look away. The tears are shed for all of us, even the forgotten... your opinion does not dictate that mercy. I will give it with or without your consent. This is the purpose of my strength, and if you feel you are the better, then I encourage you with deepest empathy.

[Etheros Twilight]

well said, i just have a few things to add =p

This is all easier said than done and i realise this, but you need to remeber that a demon, no matter how much it wants to, cannot feel compasion or love and no matter what, in the end will always hurt you.

Yes, you are right. It is futile. Utterly pointless. But then, such is life. A desire for something leads to a knowing that few truly comprehend. To truly know of something deep enough to fill rivers with words... like blood. I am quite positive that there are at least 1 or 2 "compassionate" (once) demons on this forum of which you do not know who or what they are.

They have simply forgotten... because they were forgotten. When there is no light, all you have is darkness. Even if the darkness is monstrous, even if the odds are at 1million/1, that compassion is not pointless. A gentle hand is stronger than ANY FIST and ANY BLADE.

But then... there is a price for being "good" natured such as that. Nothing comes without sacrifice.

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As a chaote, more specifically an atheist pagan, I believe that demons were all once human who... lost their way. The astral plane is a lot different than this one. Some pain runs too deep to be forgotten. It is for this reason that I do not look away. The tears are shed for all of us, even the forgotten... your opinion does not dictate that mercy. I will give it with or without your consent. This is the purpose of my strength, and if you feel you are the better, then I encourage you with deepest empathy.

Yes, the majority of demons are corrupted humans...imps...i would place them somewhere along the level of sprites and other small playful critters...they aren't human...they aren't even really  a threat...they're kinda a test for your outlook on life tho...if you're a glass-half-empty person, they're annoying...if you're a glass-half-full person, they're target practice....those stronger than fallen humans....place whatever myths you want onto their origins...those are a threat, but fortunately don't
 come up here unless its absolutely necessary...

as far as the quote from Danielle, there are compassionate, human-friendly demons around...they're known as daemons..look the term up in wiki sometime (written accounts start around ancient greece)...unfortunately tho while that demon probably is motivated by love, its actions are not going to be loving...but rather obsessive and consuming..it may hold love, but its not human love...its some contortion that will only cause pain....its no better than anger...in humans it can be a driving force to improve and empower one's self....in demons its self consuming...to the point that one's safety is not a concern so long as the enemy no longer exists.

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Hmm, thought provoking. Thanks for sharing all that. 

[Sunshine1626]

This is somewhat in the same general area.
Multiple times in the night some 'thing' will either wake me up by making some noise or at times moving things in my room. One night, a male voice said three times "come here" in my room (I woke up the first time it was said). The voice didn't sound like anyone that I had ever met before. Multiple things have been changed while I was asleep with a locked door - including lights being turned on. A little while ago I even had something grab my neck while I was sleeping; I woke up gasping and clawing at something around my neck that in some sense both felt like the presence of hand, but also didn't feel like anything. Again, my door was locked.
When these things happen, I have either just checked on the people in my house or immediately go to see if someone had woken up.
I know this all sounds somewhat insane, but I figure people here are more forgiving than others. Any help as to what I should do would be greatly appreciated.

[Etheros Twilight]

This is somewhat in the same general area.
Multiple times in the night some 'thing' will either wake me up by making some noise or at times moving things in my room. One night, a male voice said three times "come here" in my room (I woke up the first time it was said). The voice didn't sound like anyone that I had ever met before. Multiple things have been changed while I was asleep with a locked door - including lights being turned on. A little while ago I even had something grab my neck while I was sleeping; I woke up gasping and clawing at something around my neck that in some sense both felt like the presence of hand, but also didn't feel like anything. Again, my door was locked.
When these things happen, I have either just checked on the people in my house or immediately go to see if someone had woken up.
I know this all sounds somewhat insane, but I figure people here are more forgiving than others. Any help as to what I should do would be greatly appreciated.

sorry to disappoint you, but actually that sounds pretty normal....cast the LBRP or invoke holy energies if you cant target the critter...if you can shield your room while youre asleep then that will help too...if you can handle it throw up shields around youre entire house...a construct may help to gather the energies for it

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Strength and Ownership; Domain.

These things generally come by invitation. Most times the invitation is from the anger of the subconscious, or the willing consent of the person, but other times fear too can give strength and an invitation into your life.

What does darkness know of the light? A poetic glimpse, enough to strike up curiosity, but most rarely know of themselves let alone the knowing of another. A knowing does not equate to actual being. This is something more, otherwise mankind would have destroyed itself ten times over by now. But this is known to be obvious yet diluted with title until these last few hundred years, yet even today; no such equality exists.

They tell you to suffer. Suffer? I know of suffering, I too have bled. There is nothing spiritual about it. It's no different than a drug to be cast aside.

Does reading this show you a glimpse of the paradigm?
It's simply a flick of the switch in your head. Awareness is already there, everything you need to learn is already given... and when you find it, you will laugh at how silly it was, how silly you were for looking in the strangest of places.

Grow, Live and Breathe. Grow and Live because they cannot. This alone is enough.

Love. What you have to deny them is already at your disposal. You just haven't found it yet. Like I said, it is simply awareness. With awareness everything else will fall into place.

[Gray]

Thank you Talus. I am just trying to understand the classification for demons NOT based on the traditional Christian upbringing that I was immersed in ( I was  actually slated for a seminary at one point). I cannot deny that I have projected astrally so that part is understood. Humans who have lost their way.  But I didn't mean to appear merciless at all. Just trying to understand. BTW, when I have "left" my body it was the best I have ever felt. I truly wish I could do it more often. It has been many years and I have no control over it. it just...happens.

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Yes, I know what you mean. I have known some freemasons that have had connections or made friends with certain demonologists. Maybe you might want to inquire with one? They are generally helpful on such occasions if they feel the need to share, though not all are created equally if you catch my drift. It takes some time to reflect upon.

I look forward to my death. I know that sounds morbid but I feel you would understand. To finally be free of this shell is something I have dreamed of for a long time and most times I honestly do not feel like I am myself. Perhaps that is simply dissociation but it is merely a fantasy. The pleasure of finally being free to reach beyond without transference or the anchor of life.

But while I am here in this world I try to use my time wisely, these days more often than ever previous. I do look forward to the next life, but in this it is an artform. For the first time in a long time I feel like I am needed in this world, and I am not certain that that is a good thing, to be needed. None the less we are better off that I am here, as egotistical as it sounds, and you are just the same.

All we have is time. Life is inevitable, We are the impossibility.



On that note, sometimes I can't believe some of the things that come out of my mouth. 

[Etheros Twilight]

Talus, the only thing i can say is unfortunately the most ironic for ME to say...amen

[hexmoon3]

I'm still somewhat wondering if it is indeed a demon. Their are allot of weird things floating around recently...but to label something that's not causing harm to you a demon...is still a little strange to me.

[ariesffa1500]

Demons can love if angels can hate. If angels can "fall" so to can demons "rise".

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I'm still somewhat wondering if it is indeed a demon. Their are allot of weird things floating around recently...but to label something that's not causing harm to you a demon...is still a little strange to me.

Well, that's actually very true.

Only humans rush into conflict without reasoning if you think about it. Animals hunt, Parent's protect and Demons plot, but humans just like the thrill of being alive; Awareness has brought this. Awareness is really one of the very few things that separates our bodies from the rest of the animal world. That and our teeth of course.

With our awareness, we do things simply for the sake of doing them.
I have a friend who was attacked by her husband for money, probably because he was bored.

Only Human.


As much of an ass I can be, you will never see me do something like that. 

[pier]

     Becareful Demons do have sharpe teeth, & they do bite...

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Hehe, Pier, humans are the only animals in the entire animal kingdom that have 3 types of teeth. We can bite, rip & chew. No other animal can do that, nor has there ever been another animal that can do that AFAIK. We are perfect, even our flaws are perfect. Complete improbability.

If you think about it, there are a lot of improbabilities in the material world. One could even say that the material world itself is improbable, and the opposite of that (astral) is the logical probability; thought that is, in opposition to thought that isn't.
KVOS