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« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2010, 10:26:00 AM »

I don't absorb energy at all.  That's what shields are for, lol.  Honestly, few people do (that's pretty much limited to psy-vamps, and metaphysical practitioners who do it deliberately).

Most 'sensitives' generate energy--some just a bit more than other folks, others a lot more.  I've never known this to be tied to any sort of elemental association.  If you were going to make that association, then fire would be the biggest generator, because strong emotions increase energy generation rates--so, people with a volatile personality would generate more energy.  Of one type, anyhow.  (Production of anything other than auric energy doesn't appear to be tied to personality, or anything else--seems to be innate).
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« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2010, 02:48:08 PM »

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To be blunt, no.  You cannot substitute energy for blood.  Whatever it is in blood that sangs need, no one I know of, including myself, has been able to separate it from physical blood.  I know several master energy-workers, and they can't do it, either.  Perhaps it isn't energy, but if it is, it's not accessible without blood itself.

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« Reply #32 on: December 21, 2010, 04:32:15 PM »

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To be blunt, no.  You cannot substitute energy for blood.  Whatever it is in blood that sangs need, no one I know of, including myself, has been able to separate it from physical blood.  I know several master energy-workers, and they can't do it, either.  Perhaps it isn't energy, but if it is, it's not accessible without blood itself.

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« Reply #33 on: December 21, 2010, 06:14:56 PM »

So, if energy can't be substituted for blood, how do you explain sangs who have no access to donors for years at a time learning to absorb energy the way a psi does, in order to cope?
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« Reply #34 on: December 21, 2010, 08:08:12 PM »

I don't - because I don't know how/why they do it. Maybe they're hybrids? Maybe they've undergone a change in diet or sleep environment? Maybe new medications (for those with chronic conditions) - too many factors to account for in a person's offline life, to be really *certain* that they are or are not taking energy instead. (And a lot of people just *don't* factor in changes in health, diet, etc. as factors in why they're feeling better, worse, or whatever.)

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« Reply #35 on: December 21, 2010, 11:03:21 PM »

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To be blunt, no.  You cannot substitute energy for blood.  Whatever it is in blood that sangs need, no one I know of, including myself, has been able to separate it from physical blood.  I know several master energy-workers, and they can't do it, either.  Perhaps it isn't energy, but if it is, it's not accessible without blood itself.

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Im gonna go ahead and say it, since its just aching to be said, despite how many people itll piss off -- What sangs get from blood (despite it not really ever being identified), and how sangs feel before and after, is generally why they get rather dour when they hear psis prattle on about how they are real and sangs are not - they just dont GET it. Ultimately, it forces me to ask - are they even real?
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« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2010, 12:13:31 AM »

I would have to guess that, for someone who is only psi and nothing else, they can't understand the sang experience any more than someone who is only sang can understand the psi experience. Those of us who are hybrid are in some ways the lucky ones, I suppose. We can experience other forms of energy, but if the general consensus of "all hybrids must require both blood and psi energy" is true, then being hybrid can be a double edged sword, as in my case since getting blood is nearly impossible for me. I'm lucky if I have access more than twice in 90 days, and it's never more than a few drops.
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« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2010, 09:07:07 PM »

Most sangs require other energy types, not blood alone.  They usually take it when they feed, but generally if they're starving they will draw energy unintentionally (and often without awareness).  It's not everything they need--just better than nothing.
This doesn't mean that sangs are the same as psy-vamps.  They still need blood.  (It does sort of mean that 'hybrids' are probably an unnecessary category--or, that 'true sangs' are a vanishingly small category, lol).
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« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2010, 09:33:47 PM »

From what I've seen mentioned on this board, strict psi vampires are a small group too, with hybrids of some variety being most prevalent. I'm not scientific, but it would make sense that, just like being able to eat more than one kind of food and get nourishment from it, vampires would, for the most part, be able to get prana from more than once source. Makes more sense to have a broader spectrum than be a specialist.
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« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2011, 04:07:09 AM »

Most sangs require other energy types, not blood alone.  They usually take it when they feed, but generally if they're starving they will draw energy unintentionally (and often without awareness).  It's not everything they need--just better than nothing.
This doesn't mean that sangs are the same as psy-vamps.  They still need blood.  (It does sort of mean that 'hybrids' are probably an unnecessary category--or, that 'true sangs' are a vanishingly small category, lol).

That is exactly what has been happening to me. I've been starved of blood for a while so I have been unintentionally drawing energy from others,dnt know how It happens, but sadly it's very short-lived.;(
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« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2011, 06:53:29 AM »

I have recently stumbled onto a new form of gathering the necessary energies. If one can meditate long enough and reach the inner-self you can detach from your corporeal body in a sense and partially enter the aether. This allows you to absorb and gather the energies needed in order to function as well as store some so as to not need to feed constantly. While this takes massive concentration, which most people nowadays lack, it can be extremely beneficial. There is one drawback, however. The instant you are without a source or donor, your body and spirit will instantly begin to draw on that reserve and quickly deplete it. If it is run completely dry, you will require a much vaster amount of energy to resupply, so to speak, and others will most likely not want to be around you unless you have a willing and seemingly unending donor. How much energy you must absorb or how much you give off at a constant rate more directly relates to the elemental type you're more attuned towards. I am a fire type and thus must constantly absorb energy anyway. Being a hybrid and needing both energy and blood, blood sometimes at a desperate level, I can easily run an energy source dry. I have found a few friends that are air types and not only give off immense amounts of energy at once, but can channel outside energy as well. My advice with this is to use it only if you have the patience and access to a fairly reliable energy source.
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« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2011, 01:07:31 PM »

Does anyone have any advice for someone new who is trying different methods of feeding and I want to try Sang to see if it works for me? And how will I know when I do it if it works?

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« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2011, 01:20:50 PM »

You'll know it, trust me.
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« Reply #43 on: January 01, 2011, 01:44:12 PM »

Does anyone have any advice for someone new who is trying different methods of feeding and I want to try Sang to see if it works for me?

Small caution: sang feeding can be somewhat addicting, and an addiction can mimic the usual indicators of need and satiation (meaning, if one becomes addicted to a substance, like blood, one can be tricked into believing one actually needs it, but it isn't so). Additionally, I regularly hear from sangs that it can be significantly more difficult for them to acquire what they need, since there is no equivalent to ambient or elemental blood feeding.

I'm not saying don't do it, but if you are just exploring different methods of feeding, I would suggest strongly that you do more extensive experimenting with differing energy types/methods and save the sang thing for when everything else has been exhausted as not working. Unless you have more evidence to lead you to suspect being sang, other that just being curious.
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« Reply #44 on: January 01, 2011, 06:27:54 PM »

I didn't think about that, but I totally agree.
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