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Title: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: XXXDameaXxXD on January 16, 2010, 08:07:46 PM
As a Sang vampire, I feed from a close friend. But I had just fed for the first time in quite a while and feit very strange. The bond I experienced felt very different. It affected me so much more than my donor.

All she felt was fatigue. Me...I felt more intense hunger, I felt a sort of lightheadedness, like I was falling from reality. I got the chills and cold sweat, and still do. I went to sleep afterwords, but my was woken by the strangest thing. I started to have sharp, sharp pains in my heart to the point that I couldn't breathe right.

I discussed this with my donor and we concluded that maybe my reaction was due to my severe hunger, as if I needed so much more than she gave me, which is possible. My strange reaction kinda gave us a scare. We aren't too experienced with it yet, but getting better. If someone could tell us the reasons behind this, possibly point us in the right direction of what to do in case this happens again, that'd be great. I think rest would be a brilliant idea right now though...


Title: Re: Strange Reaction Or Normal Reaction?
Post by: conflagrationpwr on January 17, 2010, 12:36:08 AM
As a psi vamp, I've experienced sharp pains as a result of a defense mechanism from probing someone.  I've spoken to others who have actually used it as a weapon to deter psi vamps who feed without permission.  They describe it as sending a massive amount of energy at someone and "blowing a fuse" so to speak.  I felt exhausted and strangely emotionless afterwards.  Is it possible you overfed, somehow?


Title: Re: Strange Reaction Or Normal Reaction?
Post by: Maenad on January 17, 2010, 03:22:11 AM
The sharp chest pain sounds like it's a stomach issue. However sweats sounds like a heart attack. Please go to your doctor to make sure everything is ok. I'm currently trying to heal my stomach, because I had ulcers in it. I'd feel sharp pain in my chest a few seconds then nothing and a few seconds later more sharp pain, that bit was heart burn. Still the sweats are more signs of a heart issue, I'd have it checked out to be on the safe side.


Title: Re: Strange Reaction Or Normal Reaction?
Post by: Gamael on January 17, 2010, 04:50:23 AM
To help speed all healing processes, attempt to repair your astral body because the corporal body is actually a projection of your astral. Not the other way around.


Title: Re: Strange Reaction Or Normal Reaction?
Post by: ScottishAnarchist on February 27, 2010, 03:30:45 PM
I would check with the doctor just to make sure. I'm not a vampire myself, but maybe in the act you got anxious in some way. But I would check with the doctor to be on the safe side. Maybe next time you feed take small amounts first to see if there's any effect.


Title: Re: Strange Reaction Or Normal Reaction?
Post by: vitchy on March 01, 2010, 03:05:04 AM
I would say heart trouble.  Doesn't sound good.  Don't think feeding (or not) has anything to do with the matter.  I work in 911 dispatch and 9 out 10 times that is a sign of severe heart trouble.


Title: Re: Strange Reaction Or Normal Reaction?
Post by: XXXDameaXxXD on March 01, 2010, 07:46:52 PM
Thanks for the advice. I'll see to getting that checked out. I was originally going to a cardiologist anyways because I had a severe panic attack not too long ago. Since then, I've felt an odd pressure on my chest...

     About this matter, could depression play into it somehow? I feel kind of embarrassed to say this, but I have been diagnosed with severe manic depression so when I feel depressed, I feel an actual physical pain around my heart area. Therefore I think that could be part or most of it. At the time, I thought I was having a heart attack though, but it went away after about 2 minutes or so...

I don't know. Whats your take? Could my depression be a cause?


Title: Re: Strange Reaction Or Normal Reaction?
Post by: vitchy on March 03, 2010, 08:46:27 PM
Being depressed can cause stress on the heart which could actually cause damage to the muscle as well.  Either way I would let a doctor run some stress test to put your worries to rest in that department.  Im sorry to hear about your diagnosis with manic depression.  Did your doctor say what the root of the problem might be or is it hormonal?


Title: Re: Pain from Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: SoulSplat on March 06, 2010, 09:52:35 PM
XXXDameaXxXD,

The symptoms described in your first post sound very much like a panic (or anxiety) attack. Sufferers commonly experience nervousness, shortness of breath, and chills.

What you interpreted as "severe hunger" also sounds like the symptom of anxiousness. These feelings can be very similar.

The pressure in your chest and raging heartbeat are further symptoms panic attacks.

I'm not qualified to diagnose you. But the facts align nicely enough for you to talk to a doctor about it.

At the same time, I'd search inside yourself for (meditate on) the reason why you became so anxious around your donor. And I'd recommend not feeding again from her, until you figure it out. Especially if her friendship is important.




 


Title: Re: Pain from Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: SoulSplat on March 06, 2010, 10:13:37 PM
Actually it appears you are already asking yourself "Why am I anxious around my donor?" in this post I found later:

http://www.atlantavampirealliance.com/forum/index.php?topic=1514.0

We also have a thread, from an 18 year old with abdominal pain, you might also find of interest.

http://www.atlantavampirealliance.com/forum/index.php?topic=315.0


Title: Re: Pain from Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: Odinsbacklash on March 12, 2010, 01:40:36 PM
I read this thread with great interest,because,starting a year and a half ago,I began experiencing what I ASSUME are anxiety/panic episodes,that at first I feared were heart attacks.They did not include any chest pain or pressure but did and do include slight shortness of breath,and mild cold sweats, that ,I need to remind myself to breathe (is this crazy?).And,sometimes what would precipitate this would be,my getting angry at someone online...or maybe it was as rediculous as my critical fashion sense if I saw boring clothes on the internet.

    I drastically reduced my caffeine consumption from 1 or 2 POTS of joe a day to only 2 CUPS a morning,then no caffeine soft drinks.(I had heart palpitations late one night which scared me.)(I cut down on coffee on my moms advice-she said HER mom did the same after experiencing heart palpitations.)

    I even quit marijuana for 5 months,because often these "episodes" would happen 2 hours or 3 hours after I got stoned.

But I missed the 420 so to be honest,I baby stepped my way back to doing that and I found it wasn't the pot's fault.

 (But I am still clean and sober from everything else I used to do,its been over 5 years without alcohol and over 8 years without chemicals.)

    I do not get pain or pressure,nor the numb arm or what have you.A few times I was so scared I thought of calling the ambulance,but I was probably stoned and besides,it costs close to a thousand bucks.I don't have health insurance so I have not consulted a doctor.And I don't have photo ID so I cannot just go to a clinic like other poor folks.

When I can get back to California I shall get some tests done as I can get free health care there.But no angioplasty,as I read yesterday that theres a 1% chance that test may actually CAUSE a heart attack!


     I get REIKI sent to me sometimes,which seemed to help after a few sends.And I do E.F.T on myself sometimes.Thats the finger tapping technique that hits meridans.

Thanks for this thread,though now it scares me some...folks are getting heart attacks younger and younger...

I never stopped to think about how depleted my energy was when I had an episode....it never happened right after a feed,unless it was after a subconscious internet energy feed.I was too scared to analyze that.


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: XXXDameaXxXD on March 17, 2010, 03:06:32 AM
Thanks lots for the advice! Sorry for any possible confusion on this matter.
                         -----Damea


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: WingedWolfPsion on March 18, 2010, 07:50:55 PM
As for the initial reaction, from what I have seen this is pretty common for sangs who have gone without feeding for a long time.  Their system shuts down as much as possible.  When they feed, all the dormant areas in their system light back up again, but there isn't enough energy to sustain it all--hence, they get even hungrier.

The only solution to this is to bear with it, and after a couple of months of regular feeding (at most) it should all stabilize.  It's entirely understandable why it would be alarming, though.


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: XXXDameaXxXD on April 08, 2010, 12:28:02 PM
Thank you for the info WingedWolf. So far, that's the most believable explanation as to what happened. Not to say that there is an endless stream of possibilities and all that replied could be right or wrong, though. Thank all of you for your support! I really appreciate it!  ;)

    (And thanks for all the links and info, SoulSplat!)

--Oh and I'M CURRENTLY HAVING TO MOVE, so I'm going to have to find someone else willing to donate, but once I'm settled down. Figured I'd let everyone know. I got accepted to an art school in the middle of NOWHERE, but it's REALLY good. A finalist from American Idol went there a little while back.


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: Tensou Akebimaru on April 12, 2010, 12:27:21 PM
That could be love in a sense. With Rachel I often find myself needing much more than I get. I don't get it but it does hurt a lot. Maybe I need to find a new feeding source.


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: Tensou Akebimaru on April 12, 2010, 12:29:25 PM
P.S. I know the author personally.


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: XXXDameaXxXD on April 13, 2010, 12:16:56 PM
P.S. I know the author personally.

---School friends. Sorry for the confusion, everyone.


Title: Re: Strange Reaction Or Normal Reaction?
Post by: Fledgling on September 01, 2010, 07:51:57 AM
Thanks for the advice. I'll see to getting that checked out. I was originally going to a cardiologist anyways because I had a severe panic attack not too long ago. Since then, I've felt an odd pressure on my chest...

     About this matter, could depression play into it somehow? I feel kind of embarrassed to say this, but I have been diagnosed with severe manic depression so when I feel depressed, I feel an actual physical pain around my heart area. Therefore I think that could be part or most of it. At the time, I thought I was having a heart attack though, but it went away after about 2 minutes or so...

I don't know. Whats your take? Could my depression be a cause?

I have read with interest the posts regarding your issue, I am unaware of your age or family history and therefore i cannot make a comment about cardiac related issues even though i was a paramedic.
Here is a suggestion that works for me, after non feeding for a long time (i feed on blood directly) i get anxiety attacks and panic attacks through the onslaught of emotion from feeding. To counteract this i use sex as a distraction from the attacks, thus enabling me to feed contentedly. Try this and see how you go.


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: Tensou Akebimaru on September 30, 2010, 01:08:53 PM
Lately, I've been having this direct need for blood. I keep trying to use energies for sustenance but my craving for blood has gotten all but uncontrollable. I've managed to sate it somewhat with my own but even that is starting to fail. What the fuck is going on?


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: RKCoon on September 30, 2010, 09:52:53 PM
Lately, I've been having this direct need for blood. I keep trying to use energies for sustenance but my craving for blood has gotten all but uncontrollable. I've managed to sate it somewhat with my own but even that is starting to fail. What the fuck is going on?

Perhaps it has something to do with denial only going so far?


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: XXXDameaXxXD on October 06, 2010, 04:40:51 PM
Tensou, pm me. I'll talk with you, just REALLY busy with artwork, so might be a while. I mean, we were schoolmates..


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: Tensou Akebimaru on October 11, 2010, 08:59:59 AM
You may be right about denial, but I have long gotten past the heartbreak and moved on but my bloodlust has only grown. Is it possible for a psi or hybrid to go full sanguinarian?


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: WingedWolfPsion on December 02, 2010, 06:17:13 PM
We know virtually nothing about what sang and psi vampirism ARE...so the answer has to be yes, it's possible.  But hybrids do need blood, not just energy, that is what defines them after all. 


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: Tensou Akebimaru on December 14, 2010, 10:21:20 AM
We know virtually nothing about what sang and psi vampirism ARE...so the answer has to be yes, it's possible.  But hybrids do need blood, not just energy, that is what defines them after all. 
I know that hybrids require blood as well, but I feel that requiring blood and actively feeding off of it is too parasitic. I hate having to find energy at every turn and not being able to store it. I'm not only a vampire but at the same time I'm a fire energy type. Fire types must absorb energy constantly but being a vamp and requiring more energy than I can absorb has done nothing for me other than make me more volatile. I work tirelessly to keep my urges under control, but even someone with my will has immense trouble. Is there any way to force a change from Hybrid to Psi?


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: WingedWolfPsion on December 14, 2010, 03:23:03 PM
Frequently, people don't get to pick what they are.  Who they are, sure--but not what they are.

You don't require more energy than you can absorb.  You most likely require a different TYPE of energy than what you're taking.

If you need blood, then you need blood.  A hybrid isn't a cross between a sang and a psy-vamp.  It's someone who is BOTH a sang and psy-vamp, with all of the typical sang traits and everything that goes along with that.  You cannot substitute energy for blood--you need what you need.

I think you also need to re-evaluate the relationship between a vampire and donor.  Yes, it's true--it can be parasitic.  But it doesn't have to be.  Some donors are simply wired differently, and appear to benefit from donating.  That makes the relationship symbiotic, not parasitic--it's beneficial to both parties.  If you don't want to behave like a predator or parasite, seek out a donor who is compatible and will benefit from donating to you.

This isn't a war between you and your urges.  If you try to turn into one, and you win...then you lose.  Your body's telling you what it needs.  The consequences of ignoring that are obvious.


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: Tensou Akebimaru on December 15, 2010, 10:21:34 AM
Frequently, people don't get to pick what they are.  Who they are, sure--but not what they are.

You don't require more energy than you can absorb.  You most likely require a different TYPE of energy than what you're taking.

If you need blood, then you need blood.  A hybrid isn't a cross between a sang and a psy-vamp.  It's someone who is BOTH a sang and psy-vamp, with all of the typical sang traits and everything that goes along with that.  You cannot substitute energy for blood--you need what you need.

I think you also need to re-evaluate the relationship between a vampire and donor.  Yes, it's true--it can be parasitic.  But it doesn't have to be.  Some donors are simply wired differently, and appear to benefit from donating.  That makes the relationship symbiotic, not parasitic--it's beneficial to both parties.  If you don't want to behave like a predator or parasite, seek out a donor who is compatible and will benefit from donating to you.

This isn't a war between you and your urges.  If you try to turn into one, and you win...then you lose.  Your body's telling you what it needs.  The consequences of ignoring that are obvious.
Vampirism is a defect between the body and its energies. Everyone has a certain type of energy affinity. I am a fire type, and fire types constantly absorb energy. I am also a Hybrid which, as you said, requires both blood and energy. Therefore, I constantly absorb immense quantities of energy whilst also needing blood. My question is can I find a way to substitute energy for blood when I'm around air types, which give off infinite amounts of energy.


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: WingedWolfPsion on December 15, 2010, 12:25:06 PM
I'm sorry, but vampirism is usually not a defect of any kind.  Most vampires are operating exactly the way they are supposed to operate, and they have very unusual energy systems which are complete and often more intricate than those of non-vampires.

You're substituting your magickal philosophy in liu of asking questions and making observations. 

To be blunt, no.  You cannot substitute energy for blood.  Whatever it is in blood that sangs need, no one I know of, including myself, has been able to separate it from physical blood.  I know several master energy-workers, and they can't do it, either.  Perhaps it isn't energy, but if it is, it's not accessible without blood itself.

All energy is not the same.  (Those who believe it is, well, they can feel free to plug themselves into a wall socket the next time they're hungry).

There's a reason psychic vampires instinctively feed off of people.  People aren't the richest source of psychic energy around--the Earth itself is.  They don't NEED Earth energy.  They need the energy types that people produce.  Taking in the wrong energy type can only fool a person's system for so long.  It's like eating styrofoam.  It fills the belly, but doesn't nourish.


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: NyteMuse on December 15, 2010, 03:17:27 PM
First off, +1 to WWP. I'm not going to double-answer, but this was bugging me and I had to address

I am a fire type, and fire types constantly absorb energy.
My question is can I find a way to substitute energy for blood when I'm around air types, which give off infinite amounts of energy.

WTH? I've been studying astrology for some time now and have never heard of these attributions. I know non-vampiric fire signs and vampiric everything-else-signs, and also know air signs who are not vampiric but definitely have finite amounts of energy so I have no clue where you're getting this sort of thing.

I suppose you could be referring to something that is not western astrology, but if you are, you might want to specify, as "fire types" and "air types" are most commonly attributed to astrology.


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: WingedWolfPsion on December 15, 2010, 07:46:59 PM
Yeah, infinite is a pretty strong word.

I am entirely sure I have never met anyone with an infinite capacity for energy, nor anyone who produces infinite energy.  LOTS, yes.  Infinite, of course not. 


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: Tensou Akebimaru on December 16, 2010, 10:16:58 AM
First off, +1 to WWP. I'm not going to double-answer, but this was bugging me and I had to address

I am a fire type, and fire types constantly absorb energy.
My question is can I find a way to substitute energy for blood when I'm around air types, which give off infinite amounts of energy.

WTH? I've been studying astrology for some time now and have never heard of these attributions. I know non-vampiric fire signs and vampiric everything-else-signs, and also know air signs who are not vampiric but definitely have finite amounts of energy so I have no clue where you're getting this sort of thing.

I suppose you could be referring to something that is not western astrology, but if you are, you might want to specify, as "fire types" and "air types" are most commonly attributed to astrology.
What I mean by air types and fire types are the type of spiritual energy an individual possesses. There are three types of energy I know of; spiritual, physical, and mental. The spiritual type determines your type of absorption, the amount you absorb at a certain rate, and how you interact with others of the same and different types. That's what I was getting at.


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: WingedWolfPsion on December 16, 2010, 10:26:00 AM
I don't absorb energy at all.  That's what shields are for, lol.  Honestly, few people do (that's pretty much limited to psy-vamps, and metaphysical practitioners who do it deliberately).

Most 'sensitives' generate energy--some just a bit more than other folks, others a lot more.  I've never known this to be tied to any sort of elemental association.  If you were going to make that association, then fire would be the biggest generator, because strong emotions increase energy generation rates--so, people with a volatile personality would generate more energy.  Of one type, anyhow.  (Production of anything other than auric energy doesn't appear to be tied to personality, or anything else--seems to be innate).


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: sphynxcatvp on December 21, 2010, 02:48:08 PM
Quote from: WingedWolfPsion
To be blunt, no.  You cannot substitute energy for blood.  Whatever it is in blood that sangs need, no one I know of, including myself, has been able to separate it from physical blood.  I know several master energy-workers, and they can't do it, either.  Perhaps it isn't energy, but if it is, it's not accessible without blood itself.

*Cheers*

Why the hell is it so hard for some people to GET this message?



Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: Darklilone on December 21, 2010, 04:32:15 PM
Quote from: WingedWolfPsion
To be blunt, no.  You cannot substitute energy for blood.  Whatever it is in blood that sangs need, no one I know of, including myself, has been able to separate it from physical blood.  I know several master energy-workers, and they can't do it, either.  Perhaps it isn't energy, but if it is, it's not accessible without blood itself.

noted.


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: childofthespiral on December 21, 2010, 06:14:56 PM
So, if energy can't be substituted for blood, how do you explain sangs who have no access to donors for years at a time learning to absorb energy the way a psi does, in order to cope?


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: sphynxcatvp on December 21, 2010, 08:08:12 PM
I don't - because I don't know how/why they do it. Maybe they're hybrids? Maybe they've undergone a change in diet or sleep environment? Maybe new medications (for those with chronic conditions) - too many factors to account for in a person's offline life, to be really *certain* that they are or are not taking energy instead. (And a lot of people just *don't* factor in changes in health, diet, etc. as factors in why they're feeling better, worse, or whatever.)



Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: RKCoon on December 21, 2010, 11:03:21 PM
Quote from: WingedWolfPsion
To be blunt, no.  You cannot substitute energy for blood.  Whatever it is in blood that sangs need, no one I know of, including myself, has been able to separate it from physical blood.  I know several master energy-workers, and they can't do it, either.  Perhaps it isn't energy, but if it is, it's not accessible without blood itself.

*Cheers*

Why the hell is it so hard for some people to GET this message?




Im gonna go ahead and say it, since its just aching to be said, despite how many people itll piss off -- What sangs get from blood (despite it not really ever being identified), and how sangs feel before and after, is generally why they get rather dour when they hear psis prattle on about how they are real and sangs are not - they just dont GET it. Ultimately, it forces me to ask - are they even real?


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: childofthespiral on December 22, 2010, 12:13:31 AM
I would have to guess that, for someone who is only psi and nothing else, they can't understand the sang experience any more than someone who is only sang can understand the psi experience. Those of us who are hybrid are in some ways the lucky ones, I suppose. We can experience other forms of energy, but if the general consensus of "all hybrids must require both blood and psi energy" is true, then being hybrid can be a double edged sword, as in my case since getting blood is nearly impossible for me. I'm lucky if I have access more than twice in 90 days, and it's never more than a few drops.


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: WingedWolfPsion on December 22, 2010, 09:07:07 PM
Most sangs require other energy types, not blood alone.  They usually take it when they feed, but generally if they're starving they will draw energy unintentionally (and often without awareness).  It's not everything they need--just better than nothing.
This doesn't mean that sangs are the same as psy-vamps.  They still need blood.  (It does sort of mean that 'hybrids' are probably an unnecessary category--or, that 'true sangs' are a vanishingly small category, lol).


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: childofthespiral on December 22, 2010, 09:33:47 PM
From what I've seen mentioned on this board, strict psi vampires are a small group too, with hybrids of some variety being most prevalent. I'm not scientific, but it would make sense that, just like being able to eat more than one kind of food and get nourishment from it, vampires would, for the most part, be able to get prana from more than once source. Makes more sense to have a broader spectrum than be a specialist.


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: XXXDameaXxXD on January 01, 2011, 04:07:09 AM
Most sangs require other energy types, not blood alone.  They usually take it when they feed, but generally if they're starving they will draw energy unintentionally (and often without awareness).  It's not everything they need--just better than nothing.
This doesn't mean that sangs are the same as psy-vamps.  They still need blood.  (It does sort of mean that 'hybrids' are probably an unnecessary category--or, that 'true sangs' are a vanishingly small category, lol).

That is exactly what has been happening to me. I've been starved of blood for a while so I have been unintentionally drawing energy from others,dnt know how It happens, but sadly it's very short-lived.;(


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: Tensou Akebimaru on January 01, 2011, 06:53:29 AM
I have recently stumbled onto a new form of gathering the necessary energies. If one can meditate long enough and reach the inner-self you can detach from your corporeal body in a sense and partially enter the aether. This allows you to absorb and gather the energies needed in order to function as well as store some so as to not need to feed constantly. While this takes massive concentration, which most people nowadays lack, it can be extremely beneficial. There is one drawback, however. The instant you are without a source or donor, your body and spirit will instantly begin to draw on that reserve and quickly deplete it. If it is run completely dry, you will require a much vaster amount of energy to resupply, so to speak, and others will most likely not want to be around you unless you have a willing and seemingly unending donor. How much energy you must absorb or how much you give off at a constant rate more directly relates to the elemental type you're more attuned towards. I am a fire type and thus must constantly absorb energy anyway. Being a hybrid and needing both energy and blood, blood sometimes at a desperate level, I can easily run an energy source dry. I have found a few friends that are air types and not only give off immense amounts of energy at once, but can channel outside energy as well. My advice with this is to use it only if you have the patience and access to a fairly reliable energy source.


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: Nightshade on January 01, 2011, 01:07:31 PM
Does anyone have any advice for someone new who is trying different methods of feeding and I want to try Sang to see if it works for me? And how will I know when I do it if it works?

NightShade


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: childofthespiral on January 01, 2011, 01:20:50 PM
You'll know it, trust me.


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: NyteMuse on January 01, 2011, 01:44:12 PM
Does anyone have any advice for someone new who is trying different methods of feeding and I want to try Sang to see if it works for me?

Small caution: sang feeding can be somewhat addicting, and an addiction can mimic the usual indicators of need and satiation (meaning, if one becomes addicted to a substance, like blood, one can be tricked into believing one actually needs it, but it isn't so). Additionally, I regularly hear from sangs that it can be significantly more difficult for them to acquire what they need, since there is no equivalent to ambient or elemental blood feeding.

I'm not saying don't do it, but if you are just exploring different methods of feeding, I would suggest strongly that you do more extensive experimenting with differing energy types/methods and save the sang thing for when everything else has been exhausted as not working. Unless you have more evidence to lead you to suspect being sang, other that just being curious.


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: childofthespiral on January 01, 2011, 06:27:54 PM
I didn't think about that, but I totally agree.


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: WingedWolfPsion on January 02, 2011, 04:08:56 PM
How does one become 'attuned' to an elemental type?  Or is one naturally said to be attuned to one?  If so, is it a self-fulfilling prediction?  (IE, if one absorbs energy, does that make one automatically a 'fire' type regardless of other factors?)  I have to ask this, because the system I was trained in doesn't use 'elemental energies' as valid types, but none of the elemental systems I'm aware of actually match what you're quoting. 


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: childofthespiral on January 02, 2011, 07:00:53 PM
Not sure who you meant to direct that question to, but the few times I've been able to feed off nature, I did it the same way I do any other time. High wind gave me lots of energy but was short lived. It felt like the wind was blowing right through me when I'd opened myself to it. The couple times I was able to feed from a lightning storm I felt extremely charged up and had a very bad headache afterward. I haven't received any training. I learned by trial and error.


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: Tensou Akebimaru on January 09, 2011, 11:26:28 AM
Just for clarification, all people absorb energy. Fire types are fire types because we are all but unable to store and create our own energy, like a fire. Air types are different in that any energy they absorb they can filter and purify, for lack of a better word, as well as make almost infinite amounts of their own. Earth types are very solid, they make very little of their own energy but they can store copious amounts. Water types are probably the most balanced. They make decent amounts of their own energy but it is constantly flowing in and out of them, as a river does. When they absorb energy it must be used or expelled, like a fire type, however, they can control how much energy they expend at one time, whereas a fire type must use or expel it all at once.


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: Fledgling on January 10, 2011, 06:52:01 AM

I am a fire type, and fire types constantly absorb energy.
My question is can I find a way to substitute energy for blood when I'm around air types, which give off infinite amounts of energy.

WTH? I've been studying astrology for some time now and have never heard of these attributions. I know non-vampiric fire signs and vampiric everything-else-signs, and also know air signs who are not vampiric but definitely have finite amounts of energy so I have no clue where you're getting this sort of thing.

I suppose you could be referring to something that is not western astrology, but if you are, you might want to specify, as "fire types" and "air types" are most commonly attributed to astrology.
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Now this is my area :)   
These are not astrological signs or western, they are eastern and come from the martial arts, mostly Shanobi and are called Elemental Energies

Fire - Meaning forceful
Earth - Grounded and solid, unwavering
Air - Constant, directional slow or fast
Water - Flowing and tidal constant motion (ebbing and flowing or crashing)



Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: Nightshade on January 11, 2011, 10:23:18 PM
Yes I am curious to know how you know whether you are a fire sign, water sign, air sign or earth sign? I know I tend to burn energy fast and feel the need to feed everyday alothough people tell me they have gone months without feeding and I just dont see how they did it. I usaully have a teacher that comes and feeds me astrally because Ive never been taught how to feed properly. He would come and feed me every night at the same time or sometimes while we were talking on the phone. But its been over a week since I last talked to him and couldn't get ahold of him and the only thing I knew to do was drink blood, so i got a donor, a needle and took 100cc of blood. But I don't even know how to tell if it worked besides the irratibility went back down some but Ive started having really wierd dreams ever since I drank it. Still not being able to get in touch with him, i went and bought steaks tonight for some red meat, because thats what someone suggested, it was also suggested for more protein so eat spoonfuls of peanut butter everyday. I still feel very low on energy, although after i ate the meat which I don't normally take time to cook because Im a single mom I did get up and have some energy to do things. But I constantly everyday feel a need to feed and dont know why or what to do. I will gladly accept any suggestions here, Ive emailed people asking them to teach me how to feed off the elementals with no responses after seeing them posting about it on the discussion boards. One person did reply to a basic cry for help i sent out. I chatted with him on facebook that day but havent heard anything else. I need a teacher who is willing to talk over the phone, who has been around a while and will teach me properly. If this isn't a cry for help I don't know what is.

NightShade


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: ShadowMatt on January 20, 2011, 04:30:05 PM
Just going to throw my 2 cents in, Ive experienced something very similar to this. I never found out what it was, but it would occur when I stood up too fast every now and then about every week or 2. The doctors said it was probably low blood sugar for whatever reason.

Dont know if that helps, but...yah. :)


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: XXXDameaXxXD on July 12, 2013, 09:20:50 AM
Just going to throw my 2 cents in, Ive experienced something very similar to this. I never found out what it was, but it would occur when I stood up too fast every now and then about every week or 2. The doctors said it was probably low blood sugar for whatever reason.

Dont know if that helps, but...yah. :)

     That, to me, sounds like a head rush from standing up too quickly. Happens to me sometimes. Head rushes are fairly common, however scary at times.

                                           -----Damea


Title: Re: Pain From Feeding (Panic Attack?)
Post by: Tensou Akebimaru on July 12, 2013, 01:53:36 PM
I see the issue here. My claim to being a fire type is being confused as a claim to being a fire sign astrologically. (I may be if that's what cancer is). In fact, I'm talking about something else entirely. My being a fire type means that my energy is explosive, consuming, and uncontrollable, like a fire. However, one's type is not unique to one's energy. A person's energy type will affect his or her personality or it may be born from his or her personality. I.e. I am a fire type, therefore I am passionate and volatile at times. Yes this is all vague, but what isn't in this type of discussion? What I am referring to comes from the Eastern philosophies; primarily the Shaolin.