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Therianthropy & Otherkin => General Otherkin Discussion => Topic started by: Danielle on August 23, 2009, 05:16:01 PM



Title: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: Danielle on August 23, 2009, 05:16:01 PM
I'm interested in finding out some information about dragon otherkin. If anyone has any they would like to share id be happy to hear it :)


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: paindancer on September 25, 2009, 08:58:12 PM
While I dont really perscribe to the concept that a kin is any one particular species, I know that many claim one to help understand the echos they feel in this lifetime.

That said, I dont ID as dragonkin, but do have some very vivid and unfortunately unpleasant draconic  memories.  Some of the ways I  move when I am relaxed fall back to a bit reptilian (or just terrible table manners).

What specifically are you looking to know?



Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: Danielle on October 15, 2009, 07:02:27 PM
Anything and everything there is to know about dragons and dragon kin.


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: paindancer on October 16, 2009, 10:37:59 AM
There is nothing special about them, they are just like an number of other things in this universe with positives and negatives, just like the body you are in now.  Find harmony in what you are now, is the best advice I can give you.



Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: asteria on October 19, 2009, 10:55:00 AM
There is nothing special about them, they are just like an number of other things in this universe with positives and negatives, just like the body you are in now.  Find harmony in what you are now, is the best advice I can give you.



I strongly dissagree there is something special about everything. I will do what I can to get your information.


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: Sfinelli3 on October 19, 2009, 11:12:48 AM
Dragons once existed worldwide, but have since become extinct.  They were not fire-breathers, but their breath was hot.  Dragon kins I believe, but I am not sure, are people who have connected with the spirits of the fallen dragons and thus become Dragon Kin.  I will admit I am not certain on this, so please correct me if I am wrong.


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: paindancer on October 20, 2009, 07:30:22 PM
I would venture to guess most kin-types are merely very aware of the fragments of a past life, dragons are no different.  I will say, that with any alternate awareness, the important part is understanding what you are now, and not to overly focus on what you might have been.

Nothing special, is just that.  It isnt anything greater than the existence we have right now, and in many cases, less.

Fire breathing.. heh.. I presently breath fire.  Its not terribly difficult.  ;P


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: belovedofdeath on October 21, 2009, 11:55:53 AM
There is nothing special about them, they are just like an number of other things in this universe with positives and negatives, just like the body you are in now.  Find harmony in what you are now, is the best advice I can give you.



I strongly dissagree there is something special about everything. I will do what I can to get your information.

i think he was trying to say that they're not more special than any other type of otherkin you could feel associated with.


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: paindancer on October 21, 2009, 01:04:33 PM
bingo..

and as always, focus on what you have here and now.  Nothing is more precious or greater than the existence we currently have.


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: diss on October 22, 2009, 05:15:38 PM
Dragons once existed worldwide, but have since become extinct.  They were not fire-breathers, but their breath was hot.  Dragon kins I believe, but I am not sure, are people who have connected with the spirits of the fallen dragons and thus become Dragon Kin.  I will admit I am not certain on this, so please correct me if I am wrong.
of course they existed worldwide. which is why we've got such ample fossil evidence. NOT.

i count myself dragon. like paindancer says, i suppose it is an awareness of past lives lived as a dragon. as there is absolutely no sign of dragons having existed on earth i suppose that i lived on some other, extrasolar, planet. if we have transmigration of the soul (as reincarnation or otherwise) then why not migration through space.

my experience with other dragonkin is that everybody has their very own experience of what it means to be dragon, which is often wildly different from that of any other self-identified dragon. i have not found a single trait which is shared by all dragonkin, nor have i encountered any two dragons of the same type. any statement on what it means to be dragon must take that into account.


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: paindancer on October 26, 2009, 03:19:30 PM
well said diss


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: Removed on November 17, 2009, 08:22:58 PM
Actually, you're wrong. There are dragons and they still exist today in South-East Asia. They aren't the dragons you think of when you say the word, "Dragon", but they do exist. They are small, like the Komodo Dragon. They are classified Varanidae (Varanus komodoensis). They are basically just large lizards, larger than most other lizards anyway, and the Komodo is the largest. My australian friends told me of this, and often the locals see them as "dragons" though they are really just lizards.

There is a "belief" that dragons exist metaphysically in a world high on the astral plane beyond heaven, where only dragons can go. It is said there is a place beyond this that no one has ever gone. These are just things I read about and not experienced personally.

Befriending these metaphysical dragons is a practice known as Dragon Magick. You call to them using a dragon altar and ginger--they really love ginger root, which you will see if you leave it out for them as it will dry right up as if consumed and spit back out. Maybe it's just a reaction to oxygen, I don't know as I am not a scientist. Science wasn't my favorite subject.

To make a dragon altar, you just follow your nose and make one. It can be anything. You pick a table, maybe put down a statue, some precious stones, anything at all that feels like it might be suitable for your dragon altar.
In dragon magick, the name of the dragon is sacred. Knowing the name of the dragon is said to give you power over it. Thus, no metaphysical dragon will give you their name willingly, though there are many different types and they are all generally friendly, which is why they interact with the dragon altar so easily.

There are no spells, it's just a way of befriending them and they can be very protective over their friends, which is a good thing if you are trying to establish some form of protection in your temple area or home.

That's all I know about metaphysical dragons. I don't know how this relates to dragon-kin, if at all. Nor do I know of any relation to the mythological dragons of lore.

Hope this helps someone. ;)


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: belovedofdeath on November 17, 2009, 09:03:09 PM
Actually, you're wrong. There are dragons and they still exist today in South-East Asia. They aren't the dragons you think of when you say the word, "Dragon", but they do exist. They are small, like the Komodo Dragon. They are classified Varanidae (Varanus komodoensis). They are basically just large lizards, larger than most other lizards anyway, and the Komodo is the largest. My australian friends told me of this, and often the locals see them as "dragons" though they are really just lizards.

There is a "belief" that dragons exist metaphysically in a world high on the astral plane beyond heaven, where only dragons can go. It is said there is a place beyond this that no one has ever gone. These are just things I read about and not experienced personally.

Befriending these metaphysical dragons is a practice known as Dragon Magick. You call to them using a dragon altar and ginger--they really love ginger root, which you will see if you leave it out for them as it will dry right up as if consumed and spit back out. Maybe it's just a reaction to oxygen, I don't know as I am not a scientist. Science wasn't my favorite subject.

To make a dragon altar, you just follow your nose and make one. It can be anything. You pick a table, maybe put down a statue, some precious stones, anything at all that feels like it might be suitable for your dragon altar.
In dragon magick, the name of the dragon is sacred. Knowing the name of the dragon is said to give you power over it. Thus, no metaphysical dragon will give you their name willingly, though there are many different types and they are all generally friendly, which is why they interact with the dragon altar so easily.

There are no spells, it's just a way of befriending them and they can be very protective over their friends, which is a good thing if you are trying to establish some form of protection in your temple area or home.

That's all I know about metaphysical dragons. I don't know how this relates to dragon-kin, if at all. Nor do I know of any relation to the mythological dragons of lore.

Hope this helps someone. ;)

no no, silly hume, it is me coming and eating everyone's ginger root >:3 mwahahaha! i love ginger root <3


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: Removed on November 17, 2009, 10:03:15 PM
no no, silly hume, it is me coming and eating everyone's ginger root >:3 mwahahaha! i love ginger root <3

Hahaha, You're so crazy. <3 ;D


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: Sfinelli3 on November 18, 2009, 08:50:27 AM
Actually, you're wrong. There are dragons and they still exist today in South-East Asia. They aren't the dragons you think of when you say the word, "Dragon", but they do exist. They are small, like the Komodo Dragon. They are classified Varanidae (Varanus komodoensis). They are basically just large lizards, larger than most other lizards anyway, and the Komodo is the largest. My australian friends told me of this, and often the locals see them as "dragons" though they are really just lizards.

There is a "belief" that dragons exist metaphysically in a world high on the astral plane beyond heaven, where only dragons can go. It is said there is a place beyond this that no one has ever gone. These are just things I read about and not experienced personally.

Befriending these metaphysical dragons is a practice known as Dragon Magick. You call to them using a dragon altar and ginger--they really love ginger root, which you will see if you leave it out for them as it will dry right up as if consumed and spit back out. Maybe it's just a reaction to oxygen, I don't know as I am not a scientist. Science wasn't my favorite subject.

To make a dragon altar, you just follow your nose and make one. It can be anything. You pick a table, maybe put down a statue, some precious stones, anything at all that feels like it might be suitable for your dragon altar.
In dragon magick, the name of the dragon is sacred. Knowing the name of the dragon is said to give you power over it. Thus, no metaphysical dragon will give you their name willingly, though there are many different types and they are all generally friendly, which is why they interact with the dragon altar so easily.

There are no spells, it's just a way of befriending them and they can be very protective over their friends, which is a good thing if you are trying to establish some form of protection in your temple area or home.

That's all I know about metaphysical dragons. I don't know how this relates to dragon-kin, if at all. Nor do I know of any relation to the mythological dragons of lore.

Hope this helps someone. ;)

We had a retreat for my Pagan church years and years ago where we did something very similar to this.  We created an alter and then got a guardian dragon and had to obtain its name.  I still feel it every once in a while, but it has been a long time.  Thanks for bringing back a good memory Talus.  ^_^


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: belovedofdeath on November 18, 2009, 02:47:39 PM
no no, silly hume, it is me coming and eating everyone's ginger root >:3 mwahahaha! i love ginger root <3

Hahaha, You're so crazy. <3 ;D

hey, becareful with that, i might just come and eat all of YOUR ginger root, too. >:3


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: Removed on November 18, 2009, 02:50:09 PM
no no, silly hume, it is me coming and eating everyone's ginger root >:3 mwahahaha! i love ginger root <3

Hahaha, You're so crazy. <3 ;D

hey, becareful with that, i might just come and eat all of YOUR ginger root, too. >:3

Hmm, that might give you some crazy bad breath, you know. :-X


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: belovedofdeath on November 18, 2009, 02:52:43 PM
no no, silly hume, it is me coming and eating everyone's ginger root >:3 mwahahaha! i love ginger root <3

Hahaha, You're so crazy. <3 ;D

hey, becareful with that, i might just come and eat all of YOUR ginger root, too. >:3

Hmm, that might give you some crazy bad breath, you know. :-X

ok, your ginger root AND all of your garlic.  that better? :P


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: paindancer on November 18, 2009, 03:15:50 PM
I like the turn of the topic to draconic arts.

A big part of my martial arts and my spiritual practice involves working with elemental dragons and demons.  Way of 5 dragons / 5 demons.  Yep, they are out there, talus is dead on.


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: belovedofdeath on November 18, 2009, 03:17:52 PM
I like the turn of the topic to draconic arts.

A big part of my martial arts and my spiritual practice involves working with elemental dragons and demons.  Way of 5 dragons / 5 demons.  Yep, they are out there, talus is dead on.

i think i agree, but i just found the ginger root explanation to be a humorous wives' tale. ^_^


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: asteria on November 19, 2009, 10:07:48 AM
Topics around here change really fast.


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: belovedofdeath on November 19, 2009, 01:10:17 PM
Topics around here change really fast.

this one is a lot more on-topic than most you guys have sunk your teeth into ;3


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: masticina on July 19, 2010, 02:11:10 PM
Faint is smell in the air, Faint the light shining in my eyes and Faint the memory of what was.

The dragon soul is not one of this planet maybe not even one of our realm. Faint like dust or smoke blown in the wind yet there. Seeing, feeling, touching, tasting, knowing, learning, foretelling and protecting. Who is the dragon? Why is the dragon here? Don' t ask me...

I have no simple answers nor can I lead you through the path. Ask the dragons themself and you'll find answers but prepare to be tested and to learn things you never wanted to.

May your own insights bless you!
Masticina Akicta


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: Darklilone on July 19, 2010, 02:30:04 PM
Dragon-kin, What do i know? not a whole lot i guess.

During the course of my internet adventures i've met... *counts* 4 or more individuals who claim to be Dragon in some way. two of which i claim to be friends with (or online/internet/e-friends at least) one i considered a close aquainance and the other.. well her story was very similar to one of my friends' and she claimed to remember him, however he could not remember her.
I can not say, and it is not my place to judge, their stories/memories as fact or fiction, but they did claim.
I think, like most otherkin and therians, each individual's story is not going to be the same. I heard some quote one time, something like "if you ask 3 different people what makes them otherkin/therian, you'll get 5 different answers". Sometimes it's obvious if someone is talking out their butt, but this isn't always so.

I've heard claims from very large, burly looking dragons (some descriptions similar to D&D so i question, but you never know) to a small, wingless, flightless dragon (sort of the size of a horse or large dog).
They've claimed memories of war, of their prefered living quarters in the astral realm and of dragon-children who are living in this world in a human form as well.

To my knowledge there has been no evidence of dragons ever existing in 'the real world' no fossils, nothing. Though i guess there could be theories as to why or why not there.
It makes more sense to me, as it's been claimed, that dragons (like other creatures of myth and legend) have only existed in the astral realm, or some world that is not the one we all currently percieve with our physical senses.
Again, i don't know much about it, but i have heard of a couple claims and know the individual stories and what-not.


Title: Re: Dragon Otherkin
Post by: Plump Black Swan on May 21, 2013, 02:51:30 AM
Responding to Belovedofdeath

Ginger is good. Good as tea. Good for colds. And oddly shaped like human beans. :-\